Talk:Physician

Is a Doctor of Podiatric Medicine a Medical Physician?

If you are going to be calling a degree holding person a medical doctor, they have to attend an accredited medical school of the country and qualify to sit and take the medical professional exam established by the medical governance board of that country. DPM is offered by US schools that are not listed in the World Directory of Medical Schools. If you open the World Directory of Medical Schools, 197 results will appear for the US, starting with AT Still University Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine. All MD and DO programs are listed in the directory, because these are medical schools that provide physicians (what this page is about) to the country’s workforce. Furthermore, USMLE, which is the country’s known medical professional exam, states eligibility of an examinee as follows: “ Officially enrolled in, or a graduate of, a US or Canadian medical school leading to the MD degree (LCME accredited), OR  Officially enrolled in, or a graduate of, a US medical school leading to the DO degree (COCA accredited), OR  Officially enrolled in, or a graduate of, a medical school outside the US and Canada listed in the World Directory of Medical Schools as meeting ECFMG eligibility requirements, and meet other ECFMG criteria.” I do not see DPMs qualifying to take the country’s medical professional exam. If you are going to argue that DPMs have a doctoral degree (like many allied healthcare professionals) and do so and so maneuvers to a human body, then why don’t you add all dental degrees in this page? They’re also doctoral degree holders who do certain surgical maneuvers to a person. Many allied healthcare professionals like pharmacists (doctoral degree holders) do additional residencies after their degree like DPMs; again, this doesn’t make them physicians. DPM residencies are not funded by the ACGME like medical residencies done by MD/DOs. DPMs are not medical physicians by any point of argument. Therefore, I suggest revoking the degree from this page. Iamdoctah (talk) 23:08, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Are Ophthalmologists really physicians? They are regional clinicians/surgeons just like podiatry and dentistry. It doesn't matter that Ophthalmologists have unlimited scope because they don't actually utilize it. The term "Physician" isn't owned by any one particular country, organization, or profession. Get off your high horse. 206.127.187.97 (talk) 22:57, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

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Physicians

Hi 2406:B400:D1:D350:54D8:15A0:BEDD:E6A5 (talk) 14:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Overly subjective or unsubstantiated phrase?

The phrase, "and such hard-won membership is itself a mark of status", seems overly subjective and unsupported, and should possibly be removed. PhD4NRG (talk) 03:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

DOs weren't accepted by the AMA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States#:~:text=In%201969%2C%20the%20American%20Medical,active%20members%20of%20the%20Association.

The AMA didn't accept osteopaths until 1969. The AMA protested osteopaths for years before that decision.

Similarly, Podiatrists are physicians regardless of the AMA and ACGME's stance. Orthopedics, MD, DO is losing the battle against podiatrists. If orthopedics wanted ALL aspects of the lower extremity, they shouldn't have behaved as if wound care and diabetic complications are beneath them.

Veterans Affairs considers podiatrists to be physicians. https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwork.com/site/podiatry/podiatry-va-parity-bill-passes-congress https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwork.com/site/podiatry/va-provider-equity-act-passes-house-representatives https://www.va.gov/vhapublications/ViewPublication.asp?pub_ID=5959

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2023

Remove simply doctor from description of physician. Doctor refers to level of degree, not profession. Applemill123 (talk) 04:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: "Doctor" is very commonly used to refer to the profession Cannolis (talk) 05:29, 10 February 2023 (UTC)